Anti-Mage
[wiki] rating: 2.0 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 11%)Sven
[wiki] rating: 1.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 2%)Dark Seer
* Strong laners are usually at a disadvantage because of how well Sven can jungle. Heroes such as Dark Seer.
Underlord and
Legion Commander may find that later Sven takes care of them very quickly after some jungle farming.
Elder Titan
* Storm Hammer interrupts Echo Stomp.
Brewmaster
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 1%)Elder Titan
* {U:Earth} has passive Spell Immunity, allowing him to walk into the Echo Stomp radius to stun Elder Titan with his
Hurl Boulder.
* {U:Storm}'s Cyclone can cancel the channeling of Echo Stomp and take Elder Titan out of the fight for {show:A|Storm|Cyclone|value2} seconds.
Earthshaker
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 10%)Elder Titan
* All of his spells can stun Elder Titan and interrupt Echo Stomp's channeling thanks to Aftershock.
* Fissure is particularly good for that purpose thanks to its long range.
* Elder Titan relies heavily on his spells and a chain-stun combo will usually be followed by certain death.
Juggernaut
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 11%)Elder Titan
* Blade Fury makes Juggernaut immune to Elder Titan's stun, so there is a high chance he wont get caught in your ultimate although Earth Splitter pierces spell immunity.
Clockwerk
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 8%)Elder Titan
* Battery Assault's continuous mini-stun makes it hard for Elder Titan to cast his spells due to his poor cast animation.
* Elder Titan's channelling with Echo Stomp makes a good setup for Hookshot if timed correctly.
Ember Spirit
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 11%)Dark Seer
* Flame Guard makes Dark Seer not deal any damage with his skills to Ember Spirit.
Kunkka
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 3%)Dark Seer
* X Marks the Spot prevents Dark Seer or his allies from escaping with Surge.
Shadow Demon
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 1%)Dark Seer
* The constant dispel from Demonic Purge will make any attempt to save the victim or himself by Surge become futile. For what it's worth, Demonic Purge will also dispel
Ion Shell.
Doom
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 8%)Elder Titan
* Infernal Blade deals scaling damage and is useful against high HP targets such as Elder Titan. It also can interupt
Echo Stomp if quick enough.
* Doom has very low base armor and naturally high HP, so he isn't significantly affected by Natural Order.
Lion
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 10%)Elder Titan
* With a lot of disables with good range, he might cancel your Echo Stomp.
* Mana Drain can be used to drain Elder Titan's already low mana pool.
Sniper
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 44% pickrate: 11%)Dark Seer
* A Sniper who is somewhat competent at positioning is hardly going to be affected by any of Dark Seer's spells thanks to Take Aim.
* However, an illusion of Sniper made with Wall of Replica is extremely powerful, and hard to deal with.
Underlord
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 3%)Dark Seer
* In general, melee heroes without blink mechanisms or spell immunity will have a hard time positioning against Pit of Malice: Sven,
Tiny,
Wraith King,
Dragon Knight,
Meepo,
Doom,
Bounty Hunter,
Dark Seer,
Undying,
Alchemist,
Legion Commander.
Weaver
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 3%)Dark Seer
* Dark Seer's only disable is Vacuum. Though he starts off with high armor and health, he'll eventually have a hard time dealing with high mobility heroes such as Weaver or
Queen of Pain.
Pudge
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 29%)Dark Seer
* Abilities that deal low damage with high amounts of instances are irrelevant against Pudge during Flesh Heap's active: Gyrocopter's
Rocket Barrage and
Dark Seer's
Ion Shell are just a couple examples.
Elder Titan
* Heroes who build a Black King Bar (or have any sources of spell immunity) to channel abilities/items can still get interrupted by Dismember: Enigma,
Juggernaut,
Phantom Assassin,
Pugna,
Elder Titan.
Elder Titan
* Slow heroes that have a hard time escaping the Echo Stomp radius: Crystal Maiden,
Pudge,
Techies.
Bloodseeker
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 3%)Dark Seer
* Heroes with fast movement abilities will suffer huge damage when afflicted by Rupture: Spirit Breaker,
Earth Spirit,
Dark Seer.
Additional:
* Rupture can deal a lot of damage to either a surged Dark Seer or his allies and prevent the target from getting into position.
Disruptor
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 10%)Dark Seer
* Dark Seer relies on Surge for most of his mobility, so he's not very vulnerable to slows, but much more to root effects and walls or pseudo-walls such as Disruptor's
Kinetic Field or
Slark's
Pounce.
Monkey King
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 8%)Dark Seer
* In general, heroes who are melee with no way to fight back can be very easily poked by Monkey King to gain his Jingu Mastery stacks: Dark Seer,
Riki,
Rubick.
Queen of Pain
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 6%)Dark Seer
* Dark Seer's only disable is Vacuum. Though he starts off with high armor and health, he'll eventually have a hard time dealing with high mobility heroes such as Weaver or
Queen of Pain.
Oracle
[wiki] rating: 0.4 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 4%)Dark Seer
* Fortune's End dispels Ion Shell and Surge, making any gank attempt on Dark Seer in the laning phase likely to succeed.
* Fate's Edict prevents all magical damage that comes from Dark Seer's abilities.
* Fortune's End dispels Ion Shell on creeps, which Dark Seer relies on to farm and zone.
Additional:
* Fortune's End can dispel Ion Shell, a skill that helps Dark Seer immensely in the laning phase, as well as
Surge, a move-speed buff, effectively allowing Oracle to control Dark Seer, especially in the laning phase.
Elder Titan
* Elder Titan's
Echo Stomp can turn into a 5 second stun on an ally under the effect of False Promise, as it delays all damage and makes it impossible to break the damage threshold of Echo Stomp.
Lich
[wiki] rating: 0.4 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 9%)Elder Titan
* Frost Shield helps offset the armor reduction from Natural Order.
Dark Seer
* The haste provided by Dark Seer's
Surge or a {Rune:Haste} renders your slows ineffective.
Enchantress
[wiki] rating: 0.4 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 2%)Elder Titan
* Untouchable makes her heavily reduce Elder Titan's physical damage output on her without Spell Immunity.
* Enchant can purge
Astral Spirit's buff without Spell immunity.
* Nature's Attendants can protect her if she survives the full combo and manages to juke around.
Dark Seer
* Heroes with haste can negate Enchant's slow: Weaver,
Dark Seer,
Lycan,
Centaur Warrunner.
Terrorblade
[wiki] rating: -2.0 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 2%)Dark Seer
* Dark Seer's Vacuum and
Ion Shell allows him to clear the wave of Terrorblade's illusions.
* Wall of Replica and
Normal Punch from
Aghanim's Shard can create stronger illusions of Terrorblade.
* If Dark Seer can use Vacuum to help teammates land their AoE skills, Terrorblade will be quickly killed before he even gets a chance to use
Sunder.
Additional:
* Dark Seer's Vacuum and
Ion Shell allows him to clear a wave of Terrorblade's illusions.
* Because Terrorblade often builds items that require Ultimate Orb like
Manta Style and
Eye of Skadi, Dark Seer can create a very strong illusion of Terrorblade with
Wall of Replica and
Normal Punch from
Aghanim's Scepter.
* If Dark Seer can use Vacuum to help teammates land their AoE abilities, Terrorblade will be quickly killed before he even gets a chance to use Sunder.
Elder Titan
* Terrorblade has a high base armor, and relies on many ultimate orb-based items (Manta Style and
Eye of Skadi). Natural Order affects armor gained from agility, essentially reducing armor to zero if all armor is gained from agility. That effect combined with Terrorblade's low health can make a Elder Titan with an early value point in Natural Order a dangerous foe.
* Terrorblade's illusions are often grouped up in teamfight, making them more vulnerable to Echo Stomp.
Additional:
* Echo Stomp and
Astral Spirit allow the enemy team to coordinate a kill on Terrorblade before he can Sunder.
* Natural Order cripples Terrorblade's armor that he crucially needs to survive due to his low strength gain.
Chen
[wiki] rating: -2.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 0%)Dark Seer
* Dark Seer's Vacuum and
Ion Shell can clear a wave of Chen's Creeps effectively.
* Surge applies haste movement and negates the slow from
Hand of God, allowing Dark Seer to easily escape from Chen and his creeps.
Elder Titan
* Elder Titan's Astral Spirit ability gives him bonus damage for each converted creep it passes through.
* Echo Stomp and
Earth Splitter will often kill him or any of his allies quickly before he has time to use Hand of God.
Broodmother
[wiki] rating: -2.0 (winrate: 54% pickrate: 3%)Dark Seer
* Ion Shell zones out Broodmother in the laning phase, and can kill her spiderlings if used on one Spiderling in a group.
* Vacuum can pull Broodmother out of the treeline.
Additional:
* Ion Shell is a very powerful weapon against Broodmother's Spiderlings and makes her laning much harder.
Elder Titan
* Echo Stomp can impede Broodmother's ability to push towers due to its low cooldown and long sleep duration.
* Astral Spirit can provide Elder Titan large amounts of damage, armor, and movement speed from her spiderlings.
* Natural Order negates Broodmother and her spiderling's base armor and magic resistance, increasing most damage dealt to them.
Meepo
[wiki] rating: -2.0 (winrate: 56% pickrate: 1%)Dark Seer
* Dark Seer can take great advantage of Divided We Stand by putting an Ion Shell on a clone in order to harass them effectively.
* Vacuum can take a single Meepo and disable them for him and his teammates to take out.
Elder Titan
* Meepo lacks the disengages to escape a well-timed Echo Stomp, in particular if Elder Titan is his current target.
* Clones are counted as heroes, increasing massively the power of Astral Spirit's buffs, including Aghanim's Scepter's spell immunity buff.
* Meepo relies heavily on high agility and his mediocre strength gain makes him a very prized target for Natural Order.
* Meepo and his clones like to group up to hunt and kill in teamfights or ganks and can be easily disabled together with Echo Stomp.
Additional:
* Echo Stomp can completely disable multiple Meepos for 5 seconds.
* Astral Spirit will affect Meepo clones, as they don’t count as illusions. Elder Titan can receive a massive amount of damage, armor and movement speed from each Meepo.
* With Natural Order, Elder Titan’s mere existence causes Meepo to be disadvantaged, due to the aura that completely negates his base armor and magic resistance. Combining
Astral Spirit with Natural Order allows Elder Titan to easily kill any Meepo within a second, depending on how much damage he gains from Astral Spirit.
* Earth Splitter deals over 30%/40%/50% of each Meepo’s max hp, and is even stronger if the Meepos are near Elder Titan due to Natural Order.
Viper
[wiki] rating: -1.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 4%)Dark Seer
* Heroes who do not have nor rely on passive abilities make Nethertoxin much less effective: Clinkz,
Pugna,
Nature's Prophet,
Dark Seer,
Lycan,
Tusk
Elder Titan
* Viper is an agility hero, and his item build mostly includes agility items, so Natural Order can be devastating, removing all armor and greatly decreasing the effectiveness of Corrosive Skin, weakening Viper's magic resistance. Additionally, Echo Stomp and Earth Splitter deal both magical and physical damage, and can help bringing Viper down fast.
* Aghanim's Scepter may be necessary to take Viper down due to
Nethertoxin's break.
Phantom Lancer
[wiki] rating: -1.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 2%)Dark Seer
* Heroes that rely on illusions will suffer against Ion Shell, which kills them very quickly: Phantom Lancer,
Chaos Knight,
Naga Siren,
Meepo.
Elder Titan
* Phantom Lancer's lack of disables makes it hard for him to stop Echo Stomp's channelling.
* However, due to the long cast time of his abilities, a good Phantom Lancer can use Manta Style and/or
Doppelganger to dodge the abilities.
* Phantom Lancer's high agility and relatively low strength make him very vulnerable to Natural Order.
* Additionally, Echo Stomp and Earth Splitter can clear his wave of illusions.
* Should Phantom Lancer tries to increase his health by investing for Heart of Tarrasque, Earth Splitter does more damage to him and his illusions.
Morphling
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 44% pickrate: 8%)Elder Titan
* Morphling's high armor is primarily from morphing agility, which is reduced by Natural Order therefore making the hero very vulnerable when it has morphed a lot into agility.
* Morphling usually will Morph into high agility and low strength. This can be taken advantage of with a good stun or silence or by bursting him down before he has the time to Morph back to strength.
* Morphling is very vulnerable to Blade Mail under Natural Order and can easily burst himself down with his own auto-attacks or his magical damage combo.
Additional:
* Most of Morphling's armor comes from his high agility and it is reduced by Natural Order.
* However, the aura has only 350 range and Elder Titan can be bursted down by Morphling's nuke combo if he isn't careful.
Nature's Prophet
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 12%)Elder Titan
* Astral Spirit can give Elder Titan a lot of damage and movement speed if Nature's Prophet sends all of his Treants together.
* Not only does Echo Stomp prevent Nature's Prophet from escaping using Teleportation, but
Astral Spirit can be used to bypass Sprout and cancel Teleportation with it's own
Echo Stomp from long distances.
* Earth Splitter can clear Nature's Prophet's Treants effectively.
Templar Assassin
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 4%)Dark Seer
* Ion Shell destroys Refraction's protection stacks in short time.
* Surge ignores the massive slow from Psionic Trap.
Venomancer
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 4%)Dark Seer
* Venomancer is a low health hero and low range hero who is easy to harass with Ion Shell on a creep in the early game.
* Venomancer depends entirely on all his slows to keep distance or chase, but since Surge ignores slows, it is nearly impossible for Venomancer to hunt or run away from Dark Seer or his surged teammates.
Slark
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 17%)Dark Seer
* Dark Seer relies on Surge for most of his mobility, so he's not very vulnerable to slows, but much more to root effects and walls or pseudo-walls such as Disruptor's
Kinetic Field or
Slark's
Pounce.
Dark Seer
* Heroes with AoE abilities will hit Slark in Shadow Dance: Lina,
Jakiro,
Underlord,
Leshrac,
Dark Seer,
Earthshaker,
Timbersaw,
Crystal Maiden.
Elder Titan
* Natural Order aura prevents Slark from gaining armor from the agility stolen with Essence Shift.
* Echo Stomp and Earth Splitter can hit Slark through his Shadow Dance ultimate.
* Slark's stats gain is relatively low compared to most agility carries making him quite squishy without his agility-based armor.
Treant Protector
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 16%)Dark Seer
* Living Armor can be destroyed quickly with Ion Shell.
Dragon Knight
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 5%)Elder Titan
* Elder Titan's
Natural Order completely nullifies Dragon Knight's high armor.
Chaos Knight
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 3%)Dark Seer
* Heroes that rely on illusions will suffer against Ion Shell, which kills them very quickly: Phantom Lancer,
Chaos Knight,
Naga Siren,
Meepo.
Pangolier
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 9%)Dark Seer
* Certain heroes can mess up with Pangolier's positioning and timing (especially if he intends to use Rolling Thunder during combat): Vengeful Spirit,
Keeper of the Light,
Huskar,
Dark Seer
Techies
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 10%)Elder Titan
* Slow heroes that have a hard time escaping the Echo Stomp radius: Crystal Maiden,
Pudge,
Techies.
Lifestealer
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 5%)Dark Seer
* Heroes with escape abilities : Anti-Mage
Dark Seer
Slark
Storm Spirit
Windranger
Weaver can kite Lifestealer due to him having no lockdown
Keeper of the Light
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 3%)Dark Seer
* Heroes with hastes: Dark Seer,
Lycan
Crystal Maiden
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 13%)Elder Titan
* In general, heroes with AoE or long range disables (such as Faceless Void with
Chronosphere,
Pudge with
Meat Hook and
Elder Titan with
Echo Stomp) hinder Crystal Maiden, preventing her from using Freezing Field to help her team in a fight.
Nyx Assassin
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 4%)Dark Seer
* Heroes who rely on damage over time as Spiked Carapace can block and reflect only one instance of damage: Venomancer,
Huskar,
Ember Spirit,
Dark Seer,
Sand King,
Doom,
Dawnbreaker.
Magnus
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 15%)Elder Titan
* Any hero who can counter-initiate in anticipation without getting caught in Reverse Polarity: Sven,
Omniknight,
Enigma,
Luna,
Naga Siren,
Mars,
Jakiro,
Venomancer,
Elder Titan,
Faceless Void,
Rubick,
Keeper of the Light,
Pugna,
Invoker,
Spectre,
Alchemist,
Treant Protector,
Lina,
Oracle,
Zeus,
Shadow Shaman,
Phoenix,
Razor,
Huskar,
Batrider,
Kunkka,
Tidehunter,
Wraith King,
Sand King,
Medusa,
Dawnbreaker.
Naga Siren
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 3%)Dark Seer
* Heroes that rely on illusions will suffer against Ion Shell, which kills them very quickly: Phantom Lancer,
Chaos Knight,
Naga Siren,
Meepo.
Spectre
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 11%)Dark Seer
* Dark Seer can pull together Spectre's illusions with
Vacuum, and
Wall of Replica creates an illusion of Spectre that deals massive damage.
Razor
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 7%)Dark Seer
* Dark Seer can increase the movement speed of allies with
Surge, breaking Static Link.
Warlock
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 4%)Elder Titan
* While heroes with strong mobility are able to get close or flee from Upheaval, heroes with no escaping abilities or that lack long disables will perish against Warlock. Once the Warlock Golem lands with its stun, its hardly possible to escape when he casts Upheaval. Notable examples: Huskar,
Drow Ranger,
Lion,
Elder Titan, etc.
Dark Seer
* Surge allows for Dark Seer and his allies to escape from Upheaval due to it ignoring any slow.
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*
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