Juggernaut
[wiki] rating: 2.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 11%)Sven
[wiki] rating: 2.0 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 2%)Tiny
* Avalanche and
Toss will never be enough damage to take out Sven in a clean way.
* Tiny is very slow with low armour growth and does not buy items to sustain Sven's damage output.
Elder Titan
* Storm Hammer interrupts Echo Stomp.
Anti-Mage
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 11%)Elder Titan
* Echo Stomp and
Earth Splitter's long cast times give Anti-Mage plenty of time to Blink away.
Brewmaster
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 1%)Elder Titan
* {U:Earth} has passive Spell Immunity, allowing him to walk into the Echo Stomp radius to stun Elder Titan with his
Hurl Boulder.
* {U:Storm}'s Cyclone can cancel the channeling of Echo Stomp and take Elder Titan out of the fight for {show:A|Storm|Cyclone|value2} seconds.
Earthshaker
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 10%)Elder Titan
* All of his spells can stun Elder Titan and interrupt Echo Stomp's channeling thanks to Aftershock.
* Fissure is particularly good for that purpose thanks to its long range.
* Elder Titan relies heavily on his spells and a chain-stun combo will usually be followed by certain death.
Beastmaster
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 2%)Tiny
* Primal Roar and the slow from Boars make kiting Tiny very easy.
Jakiro
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 12%)Tiny
* Liquid Fire reduces Tiny's already abysmal Attack Speed.
* If Tiny Tosses a hero onto Jakiro, he can react with Ice Path, and potentially Macropyre.
* Tiny's Avalanche is easily countered with Ice Path.
* As Tiny has a very high Health, Liquid Frost is particularly effective against him
Lich
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 9%)Elder Titan
* Frost Shield helps offset the armor reduction from Natural Order.
Necrophos
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 7%)Tiny
* Reaper's Scythe will turn Tiny's high health against him.
* Heartstopper Aura does substantial damage to Tiny as a result of his high max health.
* Ghost Shroud protects Necrophos from Tiny's physical damage with Tree Grab and Tree Volley.
Clockwerk
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 8%)Elder Titan
* Battery Assault's continuous mini-stun makes it hard for Elder Titan to cast his spells due to his poor cast animation.
* Elder Titan's channelling with Echo Stomp makes a good setup for Hookshot if timed correctly.
Lifestealer
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 5%)Tiny
* Feast will deal a enormous amount of damage because of Tiny's huge health pool.
* Rage protects Lifestealer from Tiny's magical burst damage.
Chaos Knight
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 3%)Tiny
* Chaos Bolt and
Reality Rift makes Tiny's low mobility non existent.
* Chaos Strike means Chaos Knight will most likely survive longer in a duel between the two because Tiny has much lower attack speed.
* Chaos Knight has a 3.2 strength growth, making him one of the most tanky heroes and a very difficult target for Tiny to burst.
Doom
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 8%)Elder Titan
* Infernal Blade deals scaling damage and is useful against high HP targets such as Elder Titan. It also can interupt
Echo Stomp if quick enough.
* Doom has very low base armor and naturally high HP, so he isn't significantly affected by Natural Order.
Enchantress
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 2%)Elder Titan
* Untouchable makes her heavily reduce Elder Titan's physical damage output on her without Spell Immunity.
* Enchant can purge
Astral Spirit's buff without Spell immunity.
* Nature's Attendants can protect her if she survives the full combo and manages to juke around.
Lion
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 10%)Tiny
* Mana Drain has an extremely long range and low cooldown. It can easily deplete most heroes of their entire mana pools, especially those with smaller mana pools such as Tiny or
Spirit Breaker.
Additional:
* Lion can continuously Mana Drain Tiny in the early game, depleting his small mana pool for his abilities.
Elder Titan
* With a lot of disables with good range, he might cancel your Echo Stomp.
* Mana Drain can be used to drain Elder Titan's already low mana pool.
Tiny
* Squishy heroes, usually supports, like Lion,
Ancient Apparition,
Keeper of the Light etc can die quickly to Tiny's magic burst.
Bristleback
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 43% pickrate: 1%)Tiny
* Tiny's nonexistent armor in the early game makes him very vulnerable to Quill Spray's large amounts of physical damage.
* Bristleback decreases Tiny's high burst damage against Bristleback.
* Viscous Nasal Goo can slow Tiny to a crawl and allows Bristleback to easily kite him with his high movement speed and Quill Spray's long range, as Tiny has no ability to escape.
Tinker
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 56% pickrate: 11%)Tiny
* Heroes with Evasion or abilities that cause Tiny to miss like Phantom Assassin and
Tinker are very effective because of Tiny's low attack speed. Additionally,
Monkey King Bar is not a good item for Tiny because of its reliance on high attack speed to proc for magical damage.
Ursa
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 15%)Tiny
* Due to Tiny's non-existent agility gain, high physical damage heroes are more effective against him (Clinkz,
Templar Assassin,
Ursa,
Wraith King etc).
Clinkz
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 7%)Tiny
* Due to Tiny's non-existent agility gain, high physical damage heroes are more effective against him (Clinkz,
Templar Assassin,
Ursa,
Wraith King etc).
Underlord
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 3%)Tiny
* In general, melee heroes without blink mechanisms or spell immunity will have a hard time positioning against Pit of Malice: Sven,
Tiny,
Wraith King,
Dragon Knight,
Meepo,
Doom,
Bounty Hunter,
Dark Seer,
Undying,
Alchemist,
Legion Commander.
Drow Ranger
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 18%)Tiny
* Long ranged heroes like Sniper or
Drow Ranger can kite Tiny effectively if he doesn't get the jump on them first.
Warlock
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 4%)Elder Titan
* While heroes with strong mobility are able to get close or flee from Upheaval, heroes with no escaping abilities or that lack long disables will perish against Warlock. Once the Warlock Golem lands with its stun, its hardly possible to escape when he casts Upheaval. Notable examples: Huskar,
Drow Ranger,
Lion,
Elder Titan, etc.
Phoenix
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 5%)Tiny
* Heroes that are able to slow Tiny's attack speed, like Tusk and
Phoenix, will greatly limit his Physical damage output.
Tusk
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 15%)Tiny
* Heroes that are able to slow Tiny's attack speed, like Tusk and
Phoenix, will greatly limit his Physical damage output.
Wraith King
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 4%)Tiny
* Due to Tiny's non-existent agility gain, high physical damage heroes are more effective against him (Clinkz,
Templar Assassin,
Ursa,
Wraith King etc).
Invoker
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 14%)Tiny
* Heroes with naturally low mana can be easily shut down by EMP: Sven,
Tiny,
Wraith King,
Omniknight
Alchemist
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 3%)Tiny
* He can quickly take out heroes with low armor (Tiny) with his great physical damage.
Phantom Assassin
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 10%)Tiny
* Heroes with Evasion or abilities that cause Tiny to miss like Phantom Assassin and
Tinker are very effective because of Tiny's low attack speed. Additionally,
Monkey King Bar is not a good item for Tiny because of its reliance on high attack speed to proc for magical damage.
Sniper
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 44% pickrate: 11%)Tiny
* Long ranged heroes like Sniper or
Drow Ranger can kite Tiny effectively if he doesn't get the jump on them first.
Slark
[wiki] rating: -2.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 17%)Tiny
* Toss and
Avalanche deals heavy damage to Slark in the early game, making Tiny a very dangerous target to gank.
* Tiny has 0 agility, which means Slark's Essence Shift permanent agility steal does not do much against him.
Elder Titan
* Natural Order aura prevents Slark from gaining armor from the agility stolen with Essence Shift.
* Echo Stomp and Earth Splitter can hit Slark through his Shadow Dance ultimate.
* Slark's stats gain is relatively low compared to most agility carries making him quite squishy without his agility-based armor.
Broodmother
[wiki] rating: -2.0 (winrate: 54% pickrate: 3%)Tiny
* Tiny can quickly clear Spiderlings with his active abilities and cleave.
Elder Titan
* Echo Stomp can impede Broodmother's ability to push towers due to its low cooldown and long sleep duration.
* Astral Spirit can provide Elder Titan large amounts of damage, armor, and movement speed from her spiderlings.
* Natural Order negates Broodmother and her spiderling's base armor and magic resistance, increasing most damage dealt to them.
Meepo
[wiki] rating: -1.6 (winrate: 56% pickrate: 1%)Tiny
* Tiny's Avalanche affects all Meepos and Toss can send a singular Meepo into death.
Additional:
* Avalanche and Toss prevents Meepo's from using Poof to escape.
* Tiny doesn't need to target the weakest clone while he is affected by Tree Grab.
Elder Titan
* Meepo lacks the disengages to escape a well-timed Echo Stomp, in particular if Elder Titan is his current target.
* Clones are counted as heroes, increasing massively the power of Astral Spirit's buffs, including Aghanim's Scepter's spell immunity buff.
* Meepo relies heavily on high agility and his mediocre strength gain makes him a very prized target for Natural Order.
* Meepo and his clones like to group up to hunt and kill in teamfights or ganks and can be easily disabled together with Echo Stomp.
Additional:
* Echo Stomp can completely disable multiple Meepos for 5 seconds.
* Astral Spirit will affect Meepo clones, as they don’t count as illusions. Elder Titan can receive a massive amount of damage, armor and movement speed from each Meepo.
* With Natural Order, Elder Titan’s mere existence causes Meepo to be disadvantaged, due to the aura that completely negates his base armor and magic resistance. Combining
Astral Spirit with Natural Order allows Elder Titan to easily kill any Meepo within a second, depending on how much damage he gains from Astral Spirit.
* Earth Splitter deals over 30%/40%/50% of each Meepo’s max hp, and is even stronger if the Meepos are near Elder Titan due to Natural Order.
Morphling
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 44% pickrate: 8%)Elder Titan
* Morphling's high armor is primarily from morphing agility, which is reduced by Natural Order therefore making the hero very vulnerable when it has morphed a lot into agility.
* Morphling usually will Morph into high agility and low strength. This can be taken advantage of with a good stun or silence or by bursting him down before he has the time to Morph back to strength.
* Morphling is very vulnerable to Blade Mail under Natural Order and can easily burst himself down with his own auto-attacks or his magical damage combo.
Additional:
* Most of Morphling's armor comes from his high agility and it is reduced by Natural Order.
* However, the aura has only 350 range and Elder Titan can be bursted down by Morphling's nuke combo if he isn't careful.
Nature's Prophet
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 12%)Elder Titan
* Astral Spirit can give Elder Titan a lot of damage and movement speed if Nature's Prophet sends all of his Treants together.
* Not only does Echo Stomp prevent Nature's Prophet from escaping using Teleportation, but
Astral Spirit can be used to bypass Sprout and cancel Teleportation with it's own
Echo Stomp from long distances.
* Earth Splitter can clear Nature's Prophet's Treants effectively.
Phantom Lancer
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 2%)Elder Titan
* Phantom Lancer's lack of disables makes it hard for him to stop Echo Stomp's channelling.
* However, due to the long cast time of his abilities, a good Phantom Lancer can use Manta Style and/or
Doppelganger to dodge the abilities.
* Phantom Lancer's high agility and relatively low strength make him very vulnerable to Natural Order.
* Additionally, Echo Stomp and Earth Splitter can clear his wave of illusions.
* Should Phantom Lancer tries to increase his health by investing for Heart of Tarrasque, Earth Splitter does more damage to him and his illusions.
Naga Siren
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 3%)Tiny
* Avalanche and Toss combo makes short work of Mirror Image's illusions.
* Tiny's cleave with Tree Grab and area of effect damage with Tree Volley will easily wipe out illusions.
Chen
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 0%)Elder Titan
* Elder Titan's Astral Spirit ability gives him bonus damage for each converted creep it passes through.
* Echo Stomp and
Earth Splitter will often kill him or any of his allies quickly before he has time to use Hand of God.
Dragon Knight
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 5%)Elder Titan
* Elder Titan's
Natural Order completely nullifies Dragon Knight's high armor.
Void Spirit
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 5%)Tiny
* Side lanes with disables will greatly reduce the likeliness Void Spirit will be willing to rotate: Sven,
Tiny,
Wraith King,
Ogre Magi.
Techies
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 10%)Elder Titan
* Slow heroes that have a hard time escaping the Echo Stomp radius: Crystal Maiden,
Pudge,
Techies.
Keeper of the Light
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 3%)Tiny
* Squishy heroes, usually supports, like Lion,
Ancient Apparition,
Keeper of the Light etc can die quickly to Tiny's magic burst.
Crystal Maiden
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 13%)Elder Titan
* In general, heroes with AoE or long range disables (such as Faceless Void with
Chronosphere,
Pudge with
Meat Hook and
Elder Titan with
Echo Stomp) hinder Crystal Maiden, preventing her from using Freezing Field to help her team in a fight.
Ancient Apparition
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 5%)Tiny
* Squishy heroes, usually supports, like Lion,
Ancient Apparition,
Keeper of the Light etc can die quickly to Tiny's magic burst.
Magnus
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 15%)Elder Titan
* Any hero who can counter-initiate in anticipation without getting caught in Reverse Polarity: Sven,
Omniknight,
Enigma,
Luna,
Naga Siren,
Mars,
Jakiro,
Venomancer,
Elder Titan,
Faceless Void,
Rubick,
Keeper of the Light,
Pugna,
Invoker,
Spectre,
Alchemist,
Treant Protector,
Lina,
Oracle,
Zeus,
Shadow Shaman,
Phoenix,
Razor,
Huskar,
Batrider,
Kunkka,
Tidehunter,
Wraith King,
Sand King,
Medusa,
Dawnbreaker.
Oracle
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 4%)Elder Titan
* Elder Titan's
Echo Stomp can turn into a 5 second stun on an ally under the effect of False Promise, as it delays all damage and makes it impossible to break the damage threshold of Echo Stomp.
Terrorblade
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 2%)Tiny
* Heroes with high base damage (Morphling,
Tiny,
Drow Ranger), heroes with mana burning abilities (
Anti-Mage), and
Diffusal Blade users (
Juggernaut or
Riki) will suffer from Reflection's illusions.
Elder Titan
* Terrorblade has a high base armor, and relies on many ultimate orb-based items (Manta Style and
Eye of Skadi). Natural Order affects armor gained from agility, essentially reducing armor to zero if all armor is gained from agility. That effect combined with Terrorblade's low health can make a Elder Titan with an early value point in Natural Order a dangerous foe.
* Terrorblade's illusions are often grouped up in teamfight, making them more vulnerable to Echo Stomp.
Additional:
* Echo Stomp and
Astral Spirit allow the enemy team to coordinate a kill on Terrorblade before he can Sunder.
* Natural Order cripples Terrorblade's armor that he crucially needs to survive due to his low strength gain.
Templar Assassin
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 4%)Tiny
* Due to Tiny's non-existent agility gain, high physical damage heroes are more effective against him (Clinkz,
Templar Assassin,
Ursa,
Wraith King etc).
Tiny
* Heroes that have disposable area-targeted spells can force her to undo her Meld: Leshrac,
Puck,
Tiny,
Jakiro,. An experienced Templar Assassin could try to use Refraction before Meld so she can tank through those damage without getting her Blink disabled.
Viper
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 4%)Tiny
* Tiny has low movement speed and attack speed, making him vulnerable to Viper's slows.
* Corrosive Skin provides magic resistance to lower Tiny's magic burst damage.
Elder Titan
* Viper is an agility hero, and his item build mostly includes agility items, so Natural Order can be devastating, removing all armor and greatly decreasing the effectiveness of Corrosive Skin, weakening Viper's magic resistance. Additionally, Echo Stomp and Earth Splitter deal both magical and physical damage, and can help bringing Viper down fast.
* Aghanim's Scepter may be necessary to take Viper down due to
Nethertoxin's break.
Pudge
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 29%)Elder Titan
* Heroes who build a Black King Bar (or have any sources of spell immunity) to channel abilities/items can still get interrupted by Dismember: Enigma,
Juggernaut,
Phantom Assassin,
Pugna,
Elder Titan.
Elder Titan
* Slow heroes that have a hard time escaping the Echo Stomp radius: Crystal Maiden,
Pudge,
Techies.
Visage
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 55% pickrate: 2%)Tiny
* Familiars will easily be able to kite heroes with a short range or with low attack speed. For example, Tiny and
Undying have a very hard time killing Familiars.
Tiny
* Tiny can deal with Visage's
Gravekeeper's Cloak quickly, as Avalanche deals damage in enough instances to completely remove all 4 layers of the passive. With Visage's lower than average Armor, a well positioned stun can allow Tiny to kill Visage easily.
Additional:
* Tiny's
Avalanche removes a significant number of layers from Gravekeeper's Cloak. When combined with
Toss burns through all of Gravekeeper's Cloak while doing triple times Toss damage to Visage in midair.
* Tiny's already high damage coupled with Tree Grab's attack modifier will make short work of Visage's Familiars.
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